Episode 002: Ray Carr – Tracking FBI’s Most Prolific Bank Robber, Carl Gugasian

JERRI WILLIAMS iTUNESRetired agent Ray Carr served twenty-five years with the FBI. In this episode of FBI Retired Case File Review, he reviews his training as a hostage negotiator and profiler in the field and his investigation of Carl Gugasian, one of the most prolific bank robbers ever investigated by the FBI. The case features hidden bunkers containing stashes of cryptic maps, weapons, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, and thousands of dollars in cash.


Special Agent (Retired)

Ray Carr

4/3/1989 – 12/31/2014

Ray - NA Counselor
In 2012 Ray Carr served as a counselor for Class 249 at the FBI National Academy in Quantico, VA.










Ray also talks about investigating an international car theft ring as a new agent in the Buffalo Division, his first office of assignment. He mentions the collateral training he received at the FBI Behavioral Science Unit, now known as the National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime (NCAVC).

The highlight of the interview with Ray Carr is his case file review of the infamous hunt for an unknown Friday night serial bank robber.

How two boys helped the FBI find the Freddie Krueger-loving ‘Friday Night Bank Robber’

Carl Gugasian – Wikipedia

Worlds Greatest Bank Robber


Ray in Swat Gear
Ray rappelling during training at Indiantown Gap, PA.









Ray at Desk
Ray in the early years at his desk in the Squad 10 bullpen.










Ray Escorts Ellen Devers
Parental kidnapping suspect Ellen Dever surrenders to police, FBI (SA Ray Carr) and Customs agents.


Ray receiving award
SA Carr receiving an award from former Philadelphia Division Special Agent in Charge (SAC) Bob Conforti.











Jerri Williams

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Jerri Williams, a retired FBI agent, author and podcaster, attempts to relive her glory days by writing crime fiction and hosting FBI Retired Case File Review, a true crime podcast available for free subscription on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Spotify, and other popular podcast apps. Her nonfiction book FBI Myths and Misconceptions: A Manual for Armchair Detectives and her FBI corruption squad police procedurals featuring Special Agent Kari Wheeler are available wherever books are sold.


  1. ArmenFebruary 20, 2016

    Ms. Williams,

    I recently found your podcast on my iPhone and have instantly become a fan. I congratulate you and wish you the best of luck with your show.

    I was interested in finding out the name of Mr. Carr’s book about the bank robbery case he spoke of on Episode 2. Can you please tell me if he has finished it yet, and what the name will be if you know? Thank you very much!

    Best Regards

    1. Jerri WilliamsFebruary 20, 2016

      Thank you. I’m so glad you are enjoying the show. Ray Carr’s book is in the pre-publication stage and it will probably be a year before it is released and available for purchased. His Carl Gugasian case will make a great read. If you sign up for my quarterly newsletter, I will definitely write something about the book when it launches.


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