Episode 095: Eugene Casey – Terrorist Carlos The Jackal, Interview Strategies

Retired agent Eugene Casey served 21 years with the FBI. As a special agent, he used skills gained from his prior employment as a compliance officer at Wall Street investment firms to work white-collar crime matters, drug money laundering, food stamp benefit fraud, and terrorist financing investigations. In this episode of FBI Retired Case File Review, Eugene Casey reviews a series of interviews he conducted with Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, known worldwide as Carlos the Jackal, the inventor of modern-day terrorism. Before Osama Bin Laden, Carlos the Jackal was the world’s most famous terrorist. At the time that these debriefings, Eugene Casey was serving as Assistant Legal Attaché for the FBI in Paris, France. During his career, Casey received several awards from the Department of Justice, including one for spearheading the Salt Lake Olympic Bribery investigation. He also served as the supervisor of the Joint Task Force on Terrorist Finance in Saudi Arabia and was the Unit Chief for the Eurasian Organized Crime Unit of the Criminal Investigative Division. His last Bureau assignment before retiring earlier this year was as an instructor at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia teaching Interviewing and Interrogation Skills.

Supervisory Special Agent (Retired)

Eugene Casey

3/17/1996 – 3/24/2017










The following newspaper and magazine articles provide addition details about international terrorist  Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, also known as “Carlos the Jackal”:

CNN – 4/26/2013: Carlos the Jackal Fast Facts

New York Times – 3/28/2017: Carlos the Jackal Receives a Third Life Sentence in France

Smoking with the Jackal article

Eugene Casey wrote a comprehensive article about his debriefing of Carlos the Jackal for the Fall 2016 issue of Counterterrorism & Homeland Security International .















Eugene Casey with Carlos the Jackal at one of the four debriefing sessions that took place at the Maison Central Prison in Poissy, France.











The inscription Carlos the Jackal wrote in Eugene Casey’s copy of his book L’Islam Revolutionaire reads, “With my best revolutionary regards.”















Jerri Williams

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Jerri Williams, a retired FBI agent, author and podcaster, jokes that she writes about the FBI to relive her glory days. After 26 years with the Bureau specializing in major economic fraud and corruption investigations, she calls on her professional encounters with scams and schemers to write police procedurals inspired by true crime FBI cases in her Philadelphia FBI Corruption Squad crime fiction series featuring flawed female FBI agent Kari Wheeler. Jerri’s FBI for Armchair Detectives nonfiction series enables readers to discover who the FBI is and what the FBI does by debunking misconceptions about the FBI in books, TV, and movies. Her books are available as ebooks, paperbacks, and audiobooks wherever books are sold. She’s also the host of FBI Retired Case File Review, a true crime podcast with more than 300 episodes available on all popular podcast apps and YouTube.


  1. Denise SyrettMarch 7, 2022

    I just listened to this episode. This was an incredible story. Eugene Casey is so low key. The photo of him with the older Carlos really tells the story. Carlos looks charismatic even in a photo! Not like a crime boss\terrorist\murderer. His image is very important to him. Eugene Casey just disarms him! He is so good at his job that he actually out does the gangster. Thank you!

    1. Jerri WilliamsMarch 7, 2022

      Thanks for listening! Eugene is great. I did another case review with him. Have you listened to – Episode 146: Eugene Casey – Operation Utah Powder, Drug Cartel Money Laundering – https://jerriwilliams.com/eugene-casey-operation-utah-powder-drug-cartel-money-laundering/

  2. Josef RosenfeldJune 4, 2018

    What a dynamite interview. Learned a lot about Mr. Ramirez Sanchez, and my new neighbor.

  3. RossDecember 13, 2017

    Very riveting interview.I hope he writes his book soon.I am sure it will be a best seller.

    1. Jerri WilliamsDecember 13, 2017

      I agree!


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