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In this episode, I team up with the Stop The Killing podcast. When the hosts, Katherine Schweit and Sara Ferris, invited me to be a guest on their show, I suggested we review the core principles of America’s deadly force policy assumed by everyone who carries a gun, whether they’re a law enforcement officer or a private citizen.
I hope my conversation with Katherine and Sarah provides an understanding of what it’s like to carry a gun. Please stay safe.
Our conversation was originally posted on the Stop The Killing podcast as Season 4 episodes 58 and 59.
Retired agent Katherine Schweit is the former head of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program. She opened her own consulting business, Schweit Consulting LLC, providing consulting services to businesses, schools, and others focused on improving security policies, procedures, and training. Katherine is the author of Stop the Killing: How to End the Mass Shooting Crisis, and the host of the Stop the Killing podcast. She was previously a guest on FBI Retired Case File Review episode 255: School Shootings, Active Shooter Program.
Sarah Ferris is co-host of Stop The Killing podcast. Her company, Sarah Ferris Media, offers comprehensive freelance podcast production and consultation services, tailored to assist new creators and seasoned podcasters with idea development, long-form series production, hosting, and collaborative services.
I dedicate this show to those who made the ultimate sacrifice and lost their lives in the line of duty.
To bring authority to the topic, To be respectful to those who have had I wanted to include the voices of agents with first-hand-experience describing what it’s to take a life to save a life and those who have been shot in the line of duty while trying to protect and save the lives of others. During the episode, we include audio clips from some of the shows I’ve previously recorded with retired agents involved in shooting incidents.
The following are FBI Retired Case File Reviews episodes with retired agents involved in shooting incidents featured in this show about the use of deadly force:
267: John Kuchta – 1994 DC Metro Police Headquarters Ambush
266: Martha Dixon, Line of Duty Service Martyr
263: Craig Arnold – Shooting Incidents, FBI Medals Program
161: Jim Sweeney and Rich Macko – Broad Street Shootout
118: Ed Mireles – Fatal FBI Miami Shootout (Part 1)
119: Ed Mireles – Fatal FBI Miami Shootout (Part 2)
The following are articles about the Deadly Force policy:
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE POLICY ON USE OF FORCE Adopted May 20, 2022
U.S Supreme Court ruling – Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)
U.S Supreme Court ruling – Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386 (1989)
Officers Killed and Assaulted in the Line of Duty, 2023