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Retired agent Todd Hulsey served with the FBI for 15 and a half years. However, he has, in total, 21 years of federal law enforcement service. Prior to obtaining his law degree and joining the Bureau, Hulsey worked for five years as a special agent with the United States Customs Service, now known as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Hulsey is interviewed regarding a nuclear weapons espionage case involving Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni and his wife Marjorie Mascheroni.  “Leo” Mascheroni was a theoretical physicist formerly employed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. The FBI discovered that he had made contact with a foreign country and had offered to sell his expertise and assistance to build a nuclear weapons program for that nation. Hulsey supervised the Albuquerque Division case and the agents, analysts and surveillance group members who gathered the evidence needed to prosecute the Mascheronis for espionage. They both agreed to plead guilty to illegally passing  nuclear weapons program documents which contained information derived from classified and restricted data. He was sentenced to five years and she to one year in prison. Post Bureau retirement, Todd Hulsey runs his own law practice and operates  X Fed Productions, an entertainment consulting firm providing technical advice in the areas of national intelligence, law enforcement, and military operations to authors, screenwriters, video game developers, producers, and directors.

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Retired agent Todd Hulsey served with the FBI for 15 and a half years. However, he has, in total, 21 years of federal law enforcement service. Prior to obtaining his law degree and joining the Bureau, Hulsey worked for five years as a special agent with the United States Customs Service, now known as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Hulsey is interviewed regarding a nuclear weapons espionage case involving Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni and his wife Marjorie Mascheroni.  “Leo” Mascheroni was a theoretical physicist formerly employed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. The FBI discovered that he had made contact with a foreign country and had offered to sell his expertise and assistance to build a nuclear weapons program for that nation. Hulsey supervised the Albuquerque Division case and the agents, analysts and surveillance group members who gathered the evidence needed to prosecute the Mascheronis for espionage. They both agreed to plead guilty to illegally passing  nuclear weapons program documents which contained information derived from classified and restricted data. He was sentenced to five years and she to one year in prison. Post Bureau retirement, Todd Hulsey runs his own law practice and operates  X Fed Productions, an entertainment consulting firm providing technical advice in the areas of national intelligence, law enforcement, and military operations to authors, screenwriters, video game developers, producers, and directors.

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Retired agent Dell Spry served in the FBI for twenty years. During his career, he primarily worked counterintelligence, counterespionage, and counterterrorism investigations. While assigned to FBIHQ, Dell was a member of the National Security Council Counterterrorism Working Group. He was liaison to the CIA Counterintelligence Center, Counterespionage Group and was the lead investigator for the FBI in the Aldrich Ames case. Dell is interviewed about the two-year-long investigation where he, as the FBI case agent, along with a team of FBI and CIA personnel, was successful in identifying Ames as a KGB mole. Ames, who was directly responsible for the execution of several Soviet and Russian assets and operatives, was charged and convicted of espionage in 1994 and is serving a life sentence. Dell received the FBI Director’s Award for Excellence in a Counterintelligence Investigation and the CIA Director’s Meritorious Service Award for his efforts. Prior to retirement, Dell supervised a Counterintelligence squad in Atlanta, Georgia. Currently, as a consultant, Dell teaches an advanced course of instruction to novice and experienced FBI personnel on human intelligence (HUMINT) collection, intelligence tradecraft, and counterintelligence matters.

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Retired agent Mike Rochford served in the FBI for 30 years, five years as a clerical employee and Russian translator, and 25 as a special agent. Prior to his retirement, Mike was Section Chief of the Espionage Section. Based on his language skill, Mike worked Foreign Counter Intelligence (FCI) cases for most of his career. While assigned as a supervisor at FBI Headquarters and in the field, he oversaw such cases as Aldrich Ames and Earl Pitts, and worked to identity six unknown subjects, government spies the FBI and CIA had been for years trying to uncover. One of those “unsubs” was eventually identified as FBI agent Robert Hanssen. Hanssen is considered the most damaging spy in FBI history. Mike recruited the source, a Russian agent of the KGB/SVR, who provided the information that led to Hanssen’s identification. For this effort, Mike received the National Intelligence Medal of Achievement from the CIA.

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Retired Special Agent Barbara Verica served in the FBI for 30 years. Barbara worked counter-intelligence matters for the first 15 years of her career and investigated economic crimes for the last fifteen. She is interviewed about the two years she worked undercover in Manhattan gathering intelligence and the evidence needed to prove that her neighbor, a diplomat for an unidentified foreign country, was selling secrets to the former Soviet Union. She actually befriended the wife of the diplomat and Barbara talks about how difficult it was, at times, to maintain her cover while betraying her “friend.” This case reminds me of the FX TV show The Americans, about two KGB spies posing as a married American couple living next door to a FBI counter-intelligence agent.

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In this episode I interview retired Supervisory Special Agent John Whiteside who served 30 years with the FBI. He talks about his investigation of the longest open espionage case every brought before the U.S. courts. Thirty-two years after former NSA employee (and NSA spy) Robert Lipka  sold vital military secrets to the KGB, John was able to gather the evidence that finally exposed the betrayal. For his outstanding work on this espionage case, in March of 1997, John received from Director of the CIA George Tenet the National Intelligence Certificate of Distinction. During the interview, John also talks about his assignment to a small satellite FBI office in rural Mississippi in the early 1970’s. John has authored two books, Fool’s Mate and Cypress Shade, which provide further details about his career with the Bureau.

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